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i had been doing these fanceof things of my own, being interested in like information management. And i found thi this is a whole community of people who were interested in lie personal knowledge management. So i started with that. I realize getting into a community in that way is so valuable. It makes it so much easier. When you find somebody else who is also in it. You're like, oh, iant. We kind of already have some frame of connection. There's a really strainge pull to shift right here. But as far as working on the other side goes, i'm actually not wanting to start with emotizing a creative path because it feels so much