I don't think we can have Gene Roddenbury's Star Trek vision of a global government in the foreseeable future without any countries. But what we could have, and we do have international treaties, is earth systems governance around certain key things. And I think both China and Russia would pragmatically agree to that. It requires a certain level of nuanced diplomacy, which unfortunately, we have not been very good at because on either side of when this is the, there's enough blame to go around.

Get the Snipd
podcast app

Unlock the knowledge in podcasts with the podcast player of the future.
App store bannerPlay store banner

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode

Save any
moment

Hear something you like? Tap your headphones to save it with AI-generated key takeaways

Share
& Export

Send highlights to Twitter, WhatsApp or export them to Notion, Readwise & more

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode