i wrote a first draft of the play, but put it to one side. We met older actors r for workshops over a period of one and a half years. And then we improvised. It is a contradiction of shakespeare, isn't it? Id quoted from macbeth e, but it's not, you know, sleep knitting up the ravelled sleeve of care. It's care unravelling, exactly. Because that's, that's why it ceps them awake, isn’t it? I always end up talking of the person nextr, what did you think of thea? You know, it's very nice to have a conversation.

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