A former colleague of Kirsten's, Tech Runge John Sheeber, is working at the Flippern Coalition. He reached out to me in 2021 and said would you talk to some producers? And it ended up being because they were looking for someone who had some expertise in sort of the future of mobility. So I ended up like, you know, all of a sudden three minutes later on a film set or TV show set. It was really fun and super exciting and I'm very proud of it.