I'm thinking of two different aspects of this. One is the contrast theory of pain that you were talking about before. And maybe there really is something that will make us go through all that just for the sheer moment of bliss of reaching the top of the mountain. I also wonder if it's operating at some kind of a symbolic level where, i don't know. Whether we're atheists or believers, kind of irrelevant. A lot of the suffering we willingly endure is very much in a context of religion.

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