'Tis The Damn Season
Evolution of a Snake: The Taylor Swift Podcast
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What if Ribbons and Bows Mean Nothing?
"It really is up there for the worst of the worst. I don't know what she was trying to achieve with this," he said. "If you read the lyrics yourself, you're like, no, it's hilarious." He added: "Someone had to fall on the sword and she did it with grace"
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