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Empty Altars: American Saints in a Cynical Age (#179)

You Have Permission

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You Know, I'm Not Gonna Be Gonna Believe This

Dan O'Brien: I think the stories we regularly tend to or these I'm waving my smartphone at my friends and uh, marjorie taylor green Look like uh the white witch from narnia. And then you say have you heard about roger williams? Now he started the first baptist church in america. He thought the Puritans weren't really Christians that were going to hell now. You know like you could just see the conversations that happened those are just different the how are they different? Because those stories call something out of us.

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