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E10: Sam Harris on Populism, Polarization, and His Beef with the Left and the Right

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

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The Problem With Affirmative Action

"It's like there was a time for affirmative action, and that time has elapsed given the nature of society," he says. "If you don't care about people's race, skin becomes like hair color ... How do we get to a world where that is our basic attitude with respect to these sorts of variables?" He calls white identity politics 'the most odious thing we have on the political landscape'

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