I would say that antidote to this type of thing is not necessarily even imagination in a kind of elevated sense that we have been discussing today. But just basic humanity you know just basic just compassion just being able to because every destructive society was based on some kind of assailable truth so it kind of a conceptual system. I don't care what my see what my ideology tells me but I'm just not going to do it, he says. He's missing a little bit into this society because people get a lot to cut up in in ideology in in certain conceptual frameworks.

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