The Negative View of Cybernetics

I think it is kind of interesting that yeah there it's like the dominant usage of these things or these tools these social media tools is seems to be working against our favor but there are those opportunities obviously Taylor and I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Twitter. We both interact pretty regularly with a pretty you know vibrant trans community and you know anarchist communist etc which has been great for us as white guys who face capitalism in real life. But Ticwin does point something when they start talking about the cybernetic episteme which I would maybe prefer to call algorithmic societies, so we could generate a little conversation on this topic before we close out the episode.