The interviews were ducted by the historian larry seplair over the course of many months. He remembers the levits well, particularly helen, petite, intense, alive, but in some sense wounded. The levits had their reasons for not trusting outsiders. As you will hear, they are, oo, the other you just term starker. It means a strong, you know, kind of tough, you don't let things bowl you over. They were starkers. Helen, probably ven bit more than al i think larry sepler's conversation with helen levitt is a master class in interviewing technique. I interview people for a living as well, but