i wonder whether we've taken the mind out of the joy of movement, like we're not engaging in a way we used to call it pla. And i'm curious what year your take is on that. Yes, a hundred %. The dread mill is not i favourite forof i hear that beforeiw ya. In my book, i talk about full disclosure. We'll bring you in for an exercise study, we'll put you on the treadmill, and we won't even give you an option. There's no music. It's in a temperature controlled room. Iit doesn't get any more boring than that. But when we are engaged in play, we are actually engaging

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