Are There Two Different Origins Events?

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I don't think that the origin of life happens in a pool and like radiates outward through evolutionary processes. I think it's a multi scale phenomenon. It happens at the level of individual molecules interacting collections of molecules interacting and entire planetary scale cycles. So there's a tight coupling between things that happen at, you know, the largest scale or planetary scale and the smallest scale that life mediates. But it still might be difficult within something you would call as a single civil alien civilization to communicate with each other.

Sara Walker is an astrobiologist and theoretical physicist. Lee Cronin is a chemist. This is a conversation and debate about alien life and alien civilizations. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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(00:00) – Introduction
(07:47) – Aliens
(21:53) – What is life?
(29:35) – Assembly theory
(52:03) – Math
(1:03:45) – Communication with aliens
(1:28:38) – Evolution of the universe
(1:37:56) – Creating alien life
(1:45:29) – Origin of life
(1:52:29) – Before the Big Bang
(1:59:22) – God
(2:09:39) – Goal-directed behavior
(2:27:37) – Time
(2:35:54) – Free will and imagination
(2:51:06) – UFO sightings
(2:56:06) – Alien life forms debate
(3:11:14) – Robots
(3:20:29) – Love and emotion
(3:38:55) – Beauty in science
(3:49:06) – Random questions
(3:58:30) – Advice for young people
(4:01:48) – Life on Earth
(4:06:12) – Memory