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The Life and Times of a Youth Pastor
Jeff: Chris is not only a practitioner but incredibly gifted communicator and trainer. He met Jesus when he was 17 through a, through a, it wasn't a missional community because you hadn't written the book yet. It was just a youth pastor who had a real heart to see kids in the neighborhood meet Jesus. And so I've always been a little bit on the outside of the kind of the church culture.