Are You Forgiving of That?

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The west has become less enamoured with some of its values. Is there an alternative outcome, which is that it continues on the road of becoming essentially less liberal? It's more effective to assert your competitive advantage in a more chinese or east asian style society than it is in fully liberal society where you used to. The important choices are within what we've understood to be the liberal tradition. And i think that's true on both the right and the left.

Freddie Sayers meets Francis Fukuyama.

Francis Fukuyama is a political scientist and public intellectual, most famous for his 1992 book The End of History and the Last Man which has helped to define how we understand contemporary history. His new book is called Liberalism and its Discontents.

Freddie Sayers spoke to Dr. Fukuyama about the war in Ukraine, current trends in Western democracy, and how liberalism can better understand aspects of the human condition it has historically neglected.

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