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Pazanias - Is There a Telos?
Pazanias says that love redeems what should be shamed. But again, you think about it, his speech is supposed to praise love when actually his speech is praising the lover and he's being self-serving. So young men should only accept lovers so as to be taught wisdom and virtue. Any other reason is shameful. If it's for beauty, if it's for lust. This is for a Jewish sense of the body. And I'd also flesh out Fedris' ideas a little bit more.