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Pain Wants to Be Healed (with Vienna Pharaon)

The World's First Podcast with Erin & Sara Foster

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You Can Talk About Anything, Right?

"I don't think this shit's ever going to end," says Vienna, a licensed marriage and family therapist. "There are constraints in relationships, friendships, family dynamics that are so much more complicated than a three step process of how to like breathe better" The idea of opening something up and not being able to have a conversation with that person is disorienting,. And it's really easy and common for people to hold the narrative that they did the best that they could, right? We know that they also had complex stories as well.

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