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#411 - A Conversation with Vivek Ramaswamy

The Fifth Column

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The Importance of the Espionage Act

I would worry that it would be overly interpreted and that you would end up sending people like reality winner to prison, which is what the Trump administration or the Department of Justice did. It's appropriate for an ex-presidents or any other person who had access to sensitive secrets, not retain them and then, serially, not cough them back up when asked to give them back. And that there should be some remedy for that, especially if after when asked, they get their lawyer in and say, how can we not fulfill this? That's an enormous problem. Jonathan Turley has been doing kind of cartwheels and, you know, these contortions to defend Trump for many

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