i like to say that i start with an idea first, and then find a person to learn from about that idea. So if it's making good decisions in times of uncertainty, it's anni duke,. who used to be a professional poker player, et cetera. Sed another bac guessoh, for for robert, it was more like, i was talking to one of my friends, who 's a former teacher, bout children's books. And i happened to come acrossa this ted talk by robert on the subject of ugly faces.

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