When you can start to meet pleasure where other people meet pain, that's when you'll really start to get expediential results in your life. If you can kind of meet a pleasure point there just one thing every day, chop it the oak. Chop it te oak. Don't stop to listen if it's going to fall. Just keep chopping at it, and eventually you'll get there. But a lot of people just can't come back and chop at that oak every single day and enjoy it. And then eventually, when we're done, we have this great foundation of financial education,. Or fitness, or preciation, that you can, then it will undergird you