i'm not convinced that humans are human groups are levels of selection in the traditional sense. For group level adaptations to arise, we normally, what normally has to happen is that within group, conflict has to be almost entirely suppressed. And i think tat this, the whole field of cultural group selection is really interesting and is throwing up loads of really interesting hypotheses. But i am probably more of a tradition a, a dawkins advoca in some ways, in that sense.

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