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In this fascinating interview, Dr. Tim Scarfe speaks with renowned philosopher Daniel Dennett about the potential dangers of AI and the concept of "Counterfeit People." Dennett raises concerns about AI being used to create artificial colleagues, and argues that preventing counterfeit AI individuals is crucial for societal trust and security.
They delve into Dennett's "Two Black Boxes" thought experiment, the Chinese Room Argument by John Searle, and discuss the implications of AI in terms of reversibility, reontologisation, and realism. Dr. Scarfe and Dennett also examine adversarial LLMs, mental trajectories, and the emergence of consciousness and semanticity in AI systems.
Throughout the conversation, they touch upon various philosophical perspectives, including Gilbert Ryle's Ghost in the Machine, Chomsky's work, and the importance of competition in academia. Dennett concludes by highlighting the need for legal and technological barriers to protect against the dangers of counterfeit AI creations.
Join Dr. Tim Scarfe and Daniel Dennett in this thought-provoking discussion about the future of AI and the potential challenges we face in preserving our civilization. Don't miss this insightful conversation!
TOC:
00:00:00 Intro
00:09:56 Main show kick off
00:12:04 Counterfeit People
00:16:03 Reversibility
00:20:55 Reontologisation
00:24:43 Realism
00:27:48 Adversarial LLMs are out to get us
00:32:34 Exploring mental trajectories and Chomsky
00:38:53 Gilbert Ryle and Ghost in machine and competition in academia
00:44:32 2 Black boxes thought experiment / intentional stance
01:00:11 Chinese room
01:04:49 Singularitarianism
01:07:22 Emergence of consciousness and semanticity
References:
Tree of Thoughts: Deliberate Problem Solving with Large Language Models
https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.10601
The Problem With Counterfeit People (Daniel Dennett)
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/05/problem-counterfeit-people/674075/
The knowledge argument
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_argument
The Intentional Stance
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271180035_The_Intentional_Stance
Two Black Boxes: a Fable (Daniel Dennett)
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/28762339_Two_Black_Boxes_a_Fable
The Chinese Room Argument (John Searle)
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/chinese-room/
https://web-archive.southampton.ac.uk/cogprints.org/7150/1/10.1.1.83.5248.pdf
From Bacteria to Bach and Back: The Evolution of Minds (Daniel Dennett)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bacteria-Bach-Back-Evolution-Minds/dp/014197804X
Consciousness Explained (Daniel Dennett)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Consciousness-Explained-Penguin-Science-Dennett/dp/0140128670/
The Mind's I: Fantasies and Reflections on Self and Soul (Hofstadter, Douglas R; Dennett, Daniel C.)
https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=31494476184
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