Cheese vs. butter: the food matrix matters

Today, we’re talking about fat.

Since founding ZOE, I’ve actually started eating more fat. That might surprise you. Because for decades, we’ve been told to fear it. “Fatty foods will clog your arteries and send your cholesterol through the roof.” Right?

Well, it’s not that simple. How ‘fat’ affects your health depends on a number of factors, including the type of fat, the food matrix and even how it’s produced. One thing is for sure, that single number on the front of a food packet, isn’t going to give you the full story.

I’m joined by Professor Sarah Berry to dig deeper into fat. Uncovering which will harm us and which can help us heal.

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📚Books by our ZOE Scientists

The Food For Life Cookbook

Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati

Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector

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Free resources from ZOE

How to eat in 2026 - Discover ZOE’s 8 nutrition principles for long-term health

Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition

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Better Breakfast Guide

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