The increasing professionalization of research is depressing, says Yemini. But i do think there are ways around this, and i think that rawson is pointing some ways around this. One of the reasons that i get so much pleasure from doing something like this podcast is because it allows for a broader discussion of human nature. We've had plenty of people say to us that our discussions provoked in them an idea that they then try to look at more systematically or in more detail. That just comes from our armchair, like, the, the luxury that you and i have of satting like we're gong to read kofka this week. Ye righ, no, that's

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