In this exploration provoking episode, Piers Thurston and Dr. Amy Johnson explore the transformative concept of 'Before Psychology.' They discuss how recognising the base-level awareness that precedes thought and perception and feeling can unlock profound shifts in peace, performance, and human potential.

The conversation delves into the challenges of perceiving the ordinary, innate wisdom often overlooked. It emphasises detaching from any pre-learnt to experience a more direct and untainted inquiry into reality. The episode offers insights into achieving psychological freedom and fulfilment by realising an ever-present ordinariness rather than acquiring new techniques.  Debunking the myth of cause and effect

Amy is the author of 'The Little Book of Big Change', she is a regularly featured expert on The Steve Harvey Show, Oprah.com, as well as Fox News, The Wall Street Journal and Self magazine.

This is a relatively long episode, but it is all so very valuable - kick back and enjoy the exploration!  Please let us know what resonates

01:37 Exploring Coaching and Psychology

03:14 The Power of Subtle Understanding

04:25 Challenges in Communicating Abstract Concepts

05:31 The Role of Words and Understanding

07:46 Direct Inquiry and Self-Realization

13:25 The Essence of Effortlessness and Ordinariness

23:02 Recognizing Thought and Self-Identification

33:37 The Journey to Subtractive Understanding

40:34 The Illusion of Free Will

42:36 Questioning Cause and Effect

47:06 The Unreliable Mind

58:33 Practical Tips for Awareness

01:10:The Joy of Exploration

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Amy and her work here Amy's most recent Book 'Just a Thought' (aka That's Just What Minds Do :) purchase and get a free chapter here 
• A previous episode with Amy where we discuss why we both evoled to  up pointing our clients in this direction is here
• A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
• TASTE THE MANGO  YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind 
• Check out our other podcast episodes, a curated list here
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and post