The Origin Story of the Podcast

I definitely met you through Zach. I think it was one time when you were visiting New York, we just went out for dinner at some point. And then a couple of years later at GDC, which I'm going to guess was 2015. We also just like shot each other an email and we're like, Hey, let's you have time you want to grab dinner at somepoint. We just did a one on one at GDC. Where and I remember this one very well, because that was the one where I told you how old I am. It's definitely like a that's that's also when we talked about doing a podcast together.