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135. No Substitute For Nature with Zac Goldsmith

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

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What Are You Most Optimistic About Over Next 12 Months?

"I'm excited, principally, that we got a lot more secured in the run up to cop than i ever thought was possible," he says. "My myi im, however, full of trepidation about the challenge over next year, because we really have so much heavy lifting to do." He adds: 'We've got an enormous amount of work to do'

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