I would try to stay on the bowl as long as I could and be like, oh, one more thing. It wasn't very artful or eloquent, but just trying to keep them on the phone. They don't know that they would say this seems like a really weird phone call to receive. That's how scams in my experience work. But are you telling me that doesn't happen that often? it happens.
Jonathan Goldstein is an audio producer and the host of Heavyweight.
“I wasn’t taking myself very seriously, initially. I liked working with my friends and family because I think I was a little more comfortable with them. Then in the second season people were writing in with real problems, and they were looking at me as a kind of expert. It was terrifying to meet with these people and see the look of hopefulness in their eyes. ... I realized I need to step it up and even if I didn’t feel like an expert—an expert in an invented field that doesn’t really exist—that I’d really have to take that on with seriousness.”
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