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This week, i have a conversation with j sugrim gy is someone i've known for a long time actually. He was waxyg one of the very first episodes i recorded for the podcass. And this is his third visit, as he tells us at the beginning, which is totally awesome. I what i love about jy is he's a bold personalityi he is a full blown human being with opinions. and it's great to get into conversation like that. The conversation does fade out after about an hour but you can listen to the rest on patrion, patrion dot com slash east forest.

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