"It's the same story. It's I left my father's house. Now I'm with the pigs and I've squandered my inheritance," he says. "I don't, you know, it's not resonating with me right now that this is a tiny, mad idea or that any part of that is that this is ... But I understand like it helps to not think of it." He continues: "Where does it take you? And where, what does it unlock in you?"