Roberto: Do you find that when you're working at the more senior levels, that the people are not really doing senior level work? Roberto: Sometimes it's kind of one of the guys that I worked with, the guy was the president of this company. And he was discussing the color of the carpet that is going to be installed in the building. It wasn't just a quick, no, I want this color. He was talking about the quality and something that should never reach his. That's one of the things also power in Brazil, it's very concentrated. So, presidents and VPs, they're getting involved in things they should never. And so, they waste their