How I Transitioned From Individual Developer Advocate to VP of DevRel

I'm curious like how you sort of maneuvered from being an individual developer advocate to being a VP of DevRel, right? It's, DevRel is kind of often a zigzaggy career path. No one gets a degree in DevRel and joins the industry and just goes up in the ranks. So I always have to keep challenging myself to say, is this the best use of my time? Could I be helping someone or helping a group of people do their jobs better? And so that's really, in DevRel, that becomes the real challenge is more of an internal struggle for what do I want to be doing and where can I best, you know, have an