Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Jeffrey Toobin: Can we just get to know you a little bit? Like for listeners, you might not be familiar with yourself or your work. Well, I'm recently retired from being college professor for 36 years, taught at Elon University down in North Carolina. But how I got to that point was a part of a long journey that started with a born again experience on March the 10th, 1972. So and in that, I had this weird moment when I was driving trucks for a living and realized that I was supposed to be teaching college.