The Struggle of Complexity in Economics

Daniel Görtz and Michael Garfield in dialogue, hosted by Tom Amarque

"Evil is the annunciation of the next level of order"

Paleontologist-Futurist Michael Garfield is devoted to helping navigate our age of accelerating weirdness and helping cultivate the curiosity and play we'll need to thrive in it. As host and producer of both Future Fossils Podcast & The Santa Fe Institute's Complexity Podcast, Michael acts as interlocutor for a worldwide community of artists, scientists, and philosophers — a practice that feeds his synthetic and transdisciplinary "mind-jazz" performances in the form of essay, music, and fine art. Standard-bearer for a new generation of boundary-defying scholars, Michael refuses to be enslaved by a single perspective, creative medium, or intellectual community, walking through the walls between academia and festival culture, theory and practice — speaking and performing everywhere from Moogfest to Burning Man, SXSW to Boom Festival, the Commonwealth Bank of Australia to Long Now's Ignite Talks to The Chapel of Sacred Mirrors.

Daniel Görtz is the co-author, with Emil Esper Friis, of both “Hanzi Freinacht” books The Listening Society and Nordic Ideology. Daniel’s work approaches what many know as Ken Wilber’s integral theory, but considers its secular and practical application to politics, cultural currents in society, within the arts and beyond. He lives in Sweden and works for Metamoderna, the publisher of metamodern books, and for Glimworks, an IT-company where he is In-House Philosopher.