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A Clean Slate: With Guests John Beshears, Richard Thaler & Ray Zahab

Choiceology with Katy Milkman

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The Importance of Self-Esteem

By 1997, Ray had hit rock bottom. He was so desperate to find an exit from the life that he'd been living. His brother was a distance runner and Ray thought maybe he could follow his brother's lead by getting healthy. "You become satisfied with being unhappy, so I didn't really know any different"

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