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69. Atsuko Okatsuka Returns: How to Become Yourself

Mike Birbiglia's Working It Out

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Is There a Point at Which You Made That Pivot?

Raymond: I started being able to trust myself for the stage more. The whole finding what your voice is thing, i had a hard time trusting that for a long time. Sole zoom shows were the first time ever in our lives were while doing stand up, you're forced to watch yourself. It's an incredible inflection point for culture if you think about it. For all the things that drive us knots about the inte, socialmedia, that's really positive.

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