When a function of spiritually traumatic environments is to tell us that we are broken and in need of healing, and healing we are told looks one specific way, beginning to piece together a future on the other side of that can feel confusing. What is healing, and what is just a recreation of the stories that hurt us in the first place? In this episode, we discuss healing from complex trauma and what it means to begin to witness ourselves, turning towards the places inside of us that carry wounds. We discuss parts work, Judith Herman’s model of recovery, and hear from Dr. Alison Cook and J.S. Park. For transcript and show notes, visit holyhurtpodcast.com Credits Written and recorded by: Hillary McBride Guests: Dr. Alison Cook, J.S. Park Executive producer: Leslie Roberts Sound editing: Bradley Danyluk and Micaela Peragallo Music and scoring: Jon Guerra, adapted from the album Ordinary Ways, strings performed by Valerie Guerra Logo and art: Courtney Searcy