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Matthew Hoopes: Relient K

The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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"We were just trying to do our own thing. And didn't really worry about like, if we had a giant LED screen or like any kind of level of professionalism," he says. "It doesn't doesn't make sense to us to be an arena rock band because we've never been that ... It feels very Ohio."

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