The Cost of Refurbished Apple Products

You pay a premium for Mac stuff. You can buy Apple stuff on their website through their refurbished site and their refurbished things are almost always 20 to 25% off. But only if they have the refurbishing stock. A refurbished Apple product is that more comparable to like Windows products? Or is it still more expensive? It's just cheaper. Yeah, it's cheaper. I saw it with a difference in price. Like in college is the first time I really came face to face with Macs because my ex used one for like engineering and stuff like that. For some reason, with phones, I'm like a window snob when it comes like, I don't want to