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Kate Bowler on Shame, Productivity, and Living with Chronic Pain

Death, Sex & Money

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Is That What You're Described As?

"I just felt deeply confused about whether my, yeah, what I was allowed to be proud of," she says. "Mennonite is going to be like, congratulations. You're very pretty ... because you're supposed to cultivate humility." She's now working on a movie based on her experiences in the Mennonite community.

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