The global biodiversity framework negotiations in Montreal last year was a real sort of tipping point to use the science language. We're not going to get to net zero if nature's not absolutely at the core of the solution set, Tony says. The big issue is around metrics that can be assured by third party assurance providers, he adds. And there's been a bit of misperception that there are no nature-related data to use and in fact we did a gap analysis in March 2013.

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