In this episode of Ambition 2.0, Amanda sits down with board-certified psychiatrist, researcher, and viral mental health educator Dr. Judith Joseph, MD, MBA, to talk about a form of depression that often flies under the radar: high-functioning depression.

If you’re the one who “has it together” (the dependable friend, the rock at work, the caregiver who never drops the ball), but feel numb, exhausted, or joyless inside, this conversation is going to hit uncomfortably close to home (in the best way).

Dr. Judith breaks down:

Why so many high-achieving, caregiving women are especially vulnerable

The science-backed difference between happiness (external, elusive) and joy (internal, accessible)

Her framework of the five V’s of healing: validation, venting, values, vitals, and vision

How people-pleasing and masochistic traits keep you stuck

The surprising ways trauma, divorce, and “smaller” emotional wounds shape our ambition and burnout

Why anhedonia (a loss of joy) is a red flag

How PMDD, postpartum, and perimenopause can amplify everything

They also get into practical tools: how to set limits with toxic people you can’t fully cut them off, how to support a friend with high-functioning depression without shaming them, and why scheduling joy is needed.

If you’ve ever thought, “I’m functioning… but I’m not okay,” this episode will help you name it, understand it, and start to change it.

00:00 Intro

01:39 Judith’s story of realizing she was depressed

03:19 Why high-achieving, caregiving women are vulnerable to high-functioning depression

04:41 The difference between happiness and joy

08:30 The five V’s of healing

11:06 What masochism really means, how it became “people-pleasing,” and why women self-sacrifice

19:27 Venting vs trauma dumping

24:16 How Dr. Judith reclaimed joy through play

33:08 How to support a friend with high-functioning depression

GUEST LINKS

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drjudithjoseph/?hl=en

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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmHQJaOerTsZJfOtiYz4sOg

Read High Functioning: https://bookshop.org/a/116169/9780316577298

https://drjudithjoseph.com/

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