I had an older brother who had not the National Merit Scholarship, had gone to Yale in math and science. He was great at it, but he was really a jazz musician more than anything else. So I said, you know, I don't want that sort of mega versity kind of thing that my brother had done. And so then I got recruited by this strange little college in Florida. No grades, independent study, design your own education. It's like the opposite of formality with education.

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