In journalism, it was really around interviewing, in talking to people and asking good questions. And then also with just soft skills in communication, being able to what i call control a room. A lot of that i learned from journalism and just having to talk to so many different types of people. It helped me get myon before i had to go to the more crazy topics like prototyping and motion design or all the other things that you do as a designer. I don't consider design or u x to be this, like, super special, different thing that no one can do. Like, everybody can do this if they want to.

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