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2. What's Essential: Deep Listening with Dean Helen Williamson

The Greg McKeown Podcast

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You're Black, I'm White, Let's Talk About It

Dr. Helen Williams is the first African-American woman to hold a Dean position at the grad level at Pepperdine University. She says black and white people often don't talk about their differences because they are afraid of upsetting the apple card. "We cannot be fully accepted, fully valued, fully appreciated until we can bring all of ourselves to the table," she says.

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