How I Met David Meltzer and Alan Ginsburg

I was doing original material starting in San Francisco as trans stuff out I mean I wanted to be a writer that was that was the bad I knew how do it. We became later we became an item and went to New York but well okay what point did you start playing original material I was doing I was doingOriginal material started in San Francisco  as trans stuff out, he says. He then goes on to talk about some of his other famous friends including Alan Ginsburg who came over from Vietnam during the war.