Sally Kohn: I tend to like behavioral interviewing more than resume-based interviewing. Try to get them talking in the first few minutes about something one they know, they're comfortable with it. And then I kind of, I don't quite do the five-wise, but I sort of try to peel the onion pretty far with them. But if they can't go deeper and they also can't really introspect, if they can’t be like, yeah, in hindsight, we learned that that segment was the wrong segment for us to be pursuing.
Our guest today is Claire Hughes Johnson, former COO of Stripe and author of the new book, “Scaling People: Tactics for Management and Company Building.”
Claire joined Stripe as its COO back in 2014 and, over the course of her nearly seven years in the company’s executive suite, she oversaw rapid growth as Stripe scaled from under 200 employees to over 7,000. Prior to Stripe, she spent 10 years at Google leading various high-impact business teams.
In today’s conversation, In today’s conversation, Claire takes us behind the scenes at some of the most pivotal moments in her life that turned her into the type of leader she is today, including:
- The inside story of her lengthy, no-stone-unturned process of interviewing with the Collison brothers for the COO seat.
- How she applied some of those same lessons for hiring exceptional talent, including the right way to do reference checks and her own theories on why it’s so hard to get executive hiring right.
- How her parents instilled her deep curiosity and fierce independence at a very young age.
- Why she believes all high-performers are “learning organisms.”
You can follow Claire on Twitter at @chughesjohnson. Check out her new book, “Scaling People,” as well as the book she recommended from Fred Kofman titled “Conscious Business.”
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