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The Perverse Narrative of John Eastman
John Avlon: No one could plausibly claim that John Eastman is plotting to thwart the will of the American people by making up lies. He says it's an extraordinarily perverse narrative. Avlon: Even before anything happened, he was covering his bases. And I just can't see that you would think that any of these people, certainly Eastman, not even Trump, unless you already were sort of just completely sold on this like spy movie.