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115: Doubling Down on Intuition with Kenny Sun (Mr. Sun's Hatbox)

Eggplant: The Secret Lives of Games

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Metal Gear Solid 5: A Systemic Game

"This feels like a fully formed package, right? Like it has all the elements," he says. "I think the stuff that was like in the actual missions, that was pretty close to what I had thought of in like 2016." But everything like on the base side was was new and like came in later. So interesting to me how much of how little of Metal Gear Solid 5 survived,. And then it became its own thing".

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