The Elegance of Climbing

There was a sense of style, definitely. John Bocka used to have a baby blue sequined shirt that he'd sold around in Joshua Tree Inn. And I think even how you climbed, you know, you didn't want to like, grovel around going over the top of a mantle or something and like, roll over like, whale. You wanted to have this elegant way of doing everything so that it looked sharp. So many of the stone masters were also just like great storytellers,. Like not just that they were doing cool things, but that they were good at telling a good like campfire story.